Demurrer to the fourth, seventh, ninth, and tenth causes of action; Motion to Strike
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DOE vs Rialto Unified School District
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TENTATIVE RULING(S):
On November 26, 2025, Defendant Rialto Unified School District (RUSD) filed this present
demurrer to the fourth cause of action for failure to warn, train or educate; the seventh cause of
action for IIED; and the ninth and tenth causes of action. RUSD also moved to strike certain
allegations. An amended notice was filed on December 3, 2025. The Plaintiff also dismissed
Defendant Carlos Torres without prejudice on December 3, 2025.
On April 22, 2026, Plaintiff filed an opposition to the demurrer and motion to strike together with
the declaration of Christina J. Nolan, Esq. A second declaration was filed by Ms. Nolan on April
23, 2026, attaching the complaint.
On April 27, 2026, RUSD filed a reply.
Analysis
General Requirements for Public Entity Claim. A public entity is liable only to the extent
expressly provided by statute. (Guzman v. County of Monterrey (2009) 46 Cal.4th 887, 897.) The
statutory law outlining potential liability of public entities is set forth in Government Code §§ 815
through 818.9. The statutory law outlining potential liability of public employees is set forth in
Government Code, §§ 820-823. These provisions are all part of the Government Tort Claims
Act.
The Tort Claims Act was enacted in 1963 following the California Supreme Court decision of
Muskopf v. Corning Hospital District (1961) 55 Cal.2d 211:
“which abolished the doctrine of governmental tort immunity. Government Code section 815
restores sovereign immunity in California except as provided in the Tort Claims Act, or other
statute. Thus the intent of the act is not to expand the rights of plaintiffs in suits against
governmental entities, but to confine potential governmental liability to rigidly delineated
circumstances: immunity is waived only if the various requirements of the act are
satisfied.” (Williams v Horvath (1976) 16 Cal.3d 834, 838.)
Government Code, § 815 states:
Except as otherwise provided by statute:
(a) A public entity is not liable for an injury whether such injury arises out of an act or omission of
the public entity or a public employee or any other person.
(b) The liability of a public entity is subject to any immunity of the public entity provided by statute
and is subject to any defenses that would be available to the public entity if it were a private
person.
The Legislative Committee Comment to 815 and decisions of the California Supreme Court both
confirm that Section 815 abolishes common law tort liability for public entities. (Miklosy v
Regents of University of California (2008) 44 Cal.4th 876, 899.) The language of Section 815
makes clear “the intent of the Tort Claims Act is to confine potential governmental liability not,
expand it” (Eastburn v Regional Fire Protection Authority (2003) 31 Cal.4th 1175, 1179) and “to
confine potential governmental liability to rigidly delineated circumstances...” (Zelig v County of
Los Angeles (2002) 27 Cal.4th 1112, 1127.) A cause of action against a public entity must
identify the grounds for statutory liability against the public entity. (See California Government
Tort Liability Practice (4th ed. Cal CEB), § 8.43.)
Fourth Causes of Action for Failure to Warn, Train or Educate. This cause of action is listed in
the Complaint at ¶¶ 107-111. After asserting causes of action for negligent hiring and retention,
Plaintiff asserts this cause of action for failure to warn, train or educate, asserting that
Defendants owned Plaintiff a duty to take reasonable, protective measures to protect Plaintiff
and other minor students from the risk of childhood sexual harassment, molestation and abuse
by properly training and educating students as to the risk.
RUSD argues there is no statutory enactment that creates Gov. Code, §815.6 direct liability.
Section 815.6 provides in full: “Where a public entity is under a mandatory duty imposed by an
enactment that is designed to protect against the risk of a particular kind of injury, the public
entity is liable for an injury of that kind proximately caused by its failure to discharge the duty
unless the public entity establishes that it exercised reasonable diligence to discharge the duty.”
(Gov. Code, § 815.6.) The Complaint states no mandatory duty to warn, train or educate which
would allow direct liability. The demurrer and reply indicate there is a new bill that went into
effect this year requiring the State Department of Education to start working on a plan to
eventually train student regarding sexual abuse. (See Dem. at p. 7:15-17; Rely at p. 2:9-11.)
As for Government Code section 815.2, there is no allegation as to who at the District violated
the standard of care, and the standard of care under common law is that there is no duty. (See
Doe v. United States Youth Soccer Assn., Inc. (2017) 8 Cal.App.5th 1118, 1139 (“U.S. Youth
Soccer”.) In U.S. Youth Soccer, the plaintiff was a minor who was sexually abused by her
coach, and the defendants included the national youth soccer organization (US Youth), with
which the plaintiff's team was affiliated through its local league and state association. (U.S.
Youth Soccer, 8 Cal.App.5th at p. 1122.) The plaintiff in U.S. Youth Soccer claimed that the
defendants had a duty to protect her by “‘warn[ing], train[ing], or educat[ing] her (either directly or
through her parent or adult employees or team volunteers) about the risk of sex abuse in their
programs from their coaches and of its guidelines to protect her and best practices for youth to
avoid abuse.” (Id., at p. 1138.) The Court of Appeal found that implementing such a program
would be “extraordinarily burdensome” on the defendants. (Id. at p. 1139.) Balancing that burden
against the level of foreseeability of sexual abuse, it found the scope of the defendants’ duty to
protect the plaintiff did not include creating and implementing a sexual abuse education program.
(Ibid.) Thus, there is no common law duty applicable to RUSD, particularly back in the 1990s. In
short, this particular claim is not based on a school administrator’s failure to adequately
supervise or control Torres (as required by C.A. v. William S. Hart Union High School Dist.
(2012) 53 Cal.4th 861 (“C.A.”)), but rather on some requirement that an unnamed Doe employee
of the RUSD should have taught elementary school students how to avoid sexual abuse. While
Government Code §815.2, subdivision (a) provides that “[a] public entity is liable for injury
proximately caused by an act or omission of an employee of the public entity within the scope of
his employment if the act or omission would, apart from this section, have given rise to a cause
of action against that employee or his personal representative” (thereby laying the statutory
framework for liability against the District based on negligent supervision and retention—claims
which are not challenged in this demurrer), there is no direct statute that imposes any duty on an
administrator to teach students to avoid sexual abuse, at least as in 1997 to 1999, that RUSD
was required to follow.
Plaintiff argues that the case law such as C.A., supra, and M.W. v Panama Buena Vista Union
School Dist. (2003) 110 Cal.App.4th 508, provide a general duty to supervise students. (Opp., at
p. 12.) But neither of those cases states that school districts must train, warn, and educate
students from the late 1990s/early 2000s regarding potential dangers of its own employees or
even third parties. There can be no separate cause of action without a statute. Therefore, the
Court SUSTAINS the demurrer to the fourth cause of action for failure to warn, train or educate
with 20 days leave to amend. Because of the strong liberal policy of amendment, it is appropriate
to give Plaintiffs one more opportunity to amend to identify the specific statutes or enactments
that may impose legal duties upon the District.
9th and 10th Causes of Action. These causes of action are listed in the Complaint at ¶¶ 141-152.
The Sexual Harassment and Abuse in Educational Setting alleges that Plaintiff was harmed by
being subject to harassment at BES and within RUSD and Defendants are responsible for the
harm. Torres perpetuated the abuse and Defendants had actual knowledge that sexual abuse
was occurring and acted with deliberate indifference to the alarms. The failure to perform
mandatory duties cause of action argues Defendants failed to follow the statute.
Education Code section 200 states the policy of the State is to provide equal rights and
opportunities in educational institutes, and the purpose of the chapter is to prohibit acts contrary
to that policy. Education Code section 201 declares the legislature’s intent. These provisions
note the purpose and intent to ensure discriminatory and harassment-free public schools.
Title IX, 20 U.S.C. §1681(a), prohibits based on one’s sex from being excluded from participation
in, the denial of benefits, or subject to discrimination under any education program or activity
receiving federal funds. (See also Roe v. Hesperia, supra, 85 Cal.App.5th at p. 32.) One injured
by sexual discrimination under this provision may bring a civil action for monetary damages.
(Ibid.) In particular, a student subject to sexual harassment by a teacher may sue the school
district for damages. (Franklin v. Gwinnett County Public School (1992) 503 U.S. 60, 75; Roe v.
Hesperia, supra, 85 Cal.App.5th at p. 32.)
Education Code section 220 prohibits a student from being subjected to discrimination based on
various protective classifications, including gender, in any program conducted by an educational
institution that receives or benefits from state financial assistance or enrolls students who
receive state financial aid. The anti-discrimination provisions in the Education Code are like Title
IX, i.e., they both are designed primarily to prevent recipients of state funding from using funds in
a discriminatory manner. (Donovan v. Poway Unified School Dist. (2008) 167 Cal.App.4th 567,
603.) Thus, Education Code section 220 is analogous to Title IX. (Ibid.)
The District argues the limitation period in section 340.1 does not apply whereby Government
Code section 905, submission (m) does not apply. Code Civ. Proc., §340.1, subdivision (a)(2), is
broad in covering all actions on an entity owing a duty whose wrongful or negligent act had the
effect of legally causing childhood sexual abuse that led to the plaintiff’s injuries. Childhood
sexual assault is defined under the provision of the Penal Code, i.e., (i) procuring a child under
16 for lewd or lascivious acts [Pen. Code, §266j], (ii) incest [Pen. Code, §285], (iii) sodomy [Pen.
Code, §§286, subds. (b)(1)-(2), (c), 311.4, subd. (d)(1)], (iv) lewd or lascivious acts with minors
under 14 years of age with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the sexual desires of
that person [Pen. Code, §§288, subds. (a)-(b), 311.4, subd. (d)(1)], (v) the sexual intercourse
[Pen. Code, §§289, subds. (h)-(j), 311.4, subd. (d)(1)], and (vi) molestation [Pen. Code, §647.6].
(Code Civ. Proc., §340.1, subd. (d) [2023].)
Now, the gravamen of Education Code sections 200, 201, and 220 and Title IX claims is to hold
a school district liable for excluding a student from participating or receiving the benefits of
school programs or activities because of his sex/gender. However, the gravamen of a section
§340.1 type cause of action is holding a school district liable for its negligent behavior causing a
child to be sexually molested, assaulted, sodomized, raped, etc. Thus, the predicated basis of
liability under Education Code sections 200, 201, and 220 and Title IX are not founded within
section 340.1. That means the limitation period does not apply. Furthermore, Education Code
sections 200, 201, and 220 claim would require compliance with the Act. (Fitzgerald v.
Barnstable School Committee (2009) 555 U.S. 246, 255 [noting a Title IX claim does not impose
an administrative exhaustion requirement].)
A Title IX predicate theory borrows the limitation period for personal injury, which in 1997 (when
the injury occurred) was 1 year. (Stanley v. Trustees of California State University (9th Cir.
2006) 433 F.3d 1129, 1134 [noting Title IX borrows the state’s personal injury statute of
limitations]; Taylor v. Regents of University of California (9th Cir. 1993) 993 F.2d 710, 711-12
[noting California’s personal injury statute of limitation is 1 year].) Education Code sections 200,
201, and 220 are statutory claims, so they could be governed by section 338, subdivision (a),
i.e., a 3-year limitation period, but if the liability they impose is founded in common law, then they
are governed by the personal injury limitation period. (West Shield Investigations and Sec.
Consultants v. Superior Court (2000) 82 Cal.App.4th 935, 952-53 [in addressing the Unruh Act
stated, “Our analysis begins with a review of common law, because ‘[a] cause of action is based
upon a liability created by statute “only where the liability is embodied in a statutory provision
and was of a type which did not exist at common law.”’ [Citaiton.] Thus, where a cause of action
is based upon a statute which did not ‘create a new form of liability ... but merely codified and
refined existing law,’ the section 338 three-year limitations period for actions based upon
statutory liability does not apply. [Citation.]”].)
Furthermore, DOE was a minor in 1997, the statute of limitations would be tolled until he reached
the age of majority. (Code Civ. Proc., §352, subd. (a).) Here, DOE was born in August 1989 (¶1)
so he turned 18 in August 2007. Applying a 1 and 3-year limitation period, DOE needed to file
his Education Code section 220 claim and breach of mandatory duty claims under Education
Code sections 200-201 and Title IX on or before August 2008 and August 2010. The Complaint
was filed 15 years later. Therefore, the Court finds the 9th and 10th causes of action to be time-
barred and SUSTAINS the Demurrer without leave to amend.
Seventh Cause of Action for IIED. As opposed to the claims above, this claim would seem to go
hand and hand with a sexual abuse claim under Code Civ. Proc., §340.1. (See Coats v. New
Haven Unified School Dist. (2020) 46 Cal.App.5th 415.) This cause of action is listed in the
Complaint at ¶¶ 127-135. To state an IIED claim, one must plead, (1) outrageous conduct by the
defendant, (2) intentional or reckless causing emotional distress, (3) severe emotional distress,
and (4) causation. (Huntingdon Life Sciences, Inc. v. Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty USA, Inc.
(2005) 129 Cal.App.4th 1228, 1259.) Outrageous conduct is conduct that is beyond all possible
bounds of decency and is regarded as atrocious and utterly intolerable in a civilized community.
(Hughes v. Pair (2009) 46 Cal.4th 1035, 1050-51; Cochran v. Cochran (1998) 65 Cal.App.4th
488, 496.) The intentional or reckless cause concerns conduct intended to inflict emotional injury
or conduct engaged in with the realization that injury will result. (Christensen v. Superior Court
(Pasadena Crematorium of Altadena) (1991) 54 Cal.3d 868, 903.) Furthermore, the intentional
or reckless conduct must be directed at the plaintiff or occur in the presence of the plaintiff.
(Ibid.)
Here, Defendant District argues the IIED cause of action is improper because no
statutory basis provided for it to be asserted against it. It is correct. When pleading a claim
against a government entity, the statute or enactment that is claimed to establish the public
entity’s duty must be identified. (Searcy v. Hemet Unified School District (1986) 177 Cal.App.3d
792, 802.) No statute is identified here.
Per the Opposition, Plaintiff seeks to impose IIED liability under a vicarious liability theory. Per
Government Code section 815.2, subdivision (a), a government employer may be vicariously
liable for the acts and omissions of its employees who acted in the course and scope of his
employment. (C.A. v. William S. Hart Union School Dist. (2012) 53 Cal.4th 861, 868 [“C.A.”].)
However, a teacher engaging in sexual harassment or abuse of a student is not a matter falling
within the teacher’s scope of employment to hold the employer vicariously liable for the teacher’s
misconduct. (John R. v. Oakland Unified School Dist. (1989) 48 Cal.3d 438, 447-53 [“John R.”];
Steven F. v. Anaheim Union High School Dist. (2003) 112 Cal.App.4th 904, 908-09 [“Steven
F.”].) Nonetheless, a school district can be vicariously liable for the acts of supervisory and
administrative employees who negligently hired, retained, and/or supervised another
teacher/employee. (C.A., supra, 53 Cal.4th at pp. 865-66, 868-71.)
Under the above law, Defendant District cannot be held vicariously liable for any emotional
distress damages allegedly caused by Torres sexually abusing DOE. Yet, arguably, it could be
liable for any intentional, outrageous conduct directed toward DOE by a supervisory or
administrative employee. The problem is the Complaint’s allegations only plead intentional and
outrageous conduct by Torres. The purported intentional and outrageous conduct by District
supervisors or administrators is not directed toward DOE, but to purportedly other victims, or in
engaging in a cover-up activity that is not demonstrated done in DOE’s presence (Comp., ¶
128). Thus, no factual predicate basis of intentional and outrageous conduct is pled by a
supervisor or administrative District employee. As this is the first review, Plaintiff may be able to
cure. Therefore, the Court SUSTAINS the Demurrer to the Seventh cause of action with 20 days
leave to amend.
MOTION TO STRIKE
RUSD seeks to strike the allegations that Torres was acting within the course and scope of his
employment and are contrary to John R. v. Oakland Unified School Dist. (1989) 48 Cal.3d 438,
452 which found that a teacher’s sexual assault on a student is not within teacher’s course and
scope of employment. As such, RUSD moves to strike the following lines and/or paragraphs in
the Complaint without leave to amend:
Request 1: Specifically, Pg. 3, ¶ 9, lines 18-21: states “TORRES was an teacher at BES
employed, supervised, and overseen by RUSD and BES, and was under their complete control
and/or active supervision.”
Request 2: At page 4, ¶ 12, lines 5-12, Plaintiff alleges: “...At all times mentioned herein, there
existed a unity of interest and ownership among Defendants and each of them, such that any
individuality and separateness between Defendants ceased to exist. Defendants, and each of
them, in-interest and/or alter egos of one another, in that they purchased, controlled, dominated
and operated one another without any separate identity, observation of formalities, or other
manner of division. To continue maintaining the facade of a separate and individual existence
between and among Defendants, and each of them, would serve to perpetrate a fraud and an
injustice.”
Request 3: At page 4, ¶ 13, lines 14-16 states: “TORRES was an adult teacher, mentor, and
advisor employee and/or agent of RUSD and BES, acting as an employee, agent, and/or servant
of such and/or was under their complete control and/or supervision, as well as the complete
control of the Board, Superintendent, and Assistant Superintendent of RUSD.”
Request 4: At page 5 ¶ 19, lines 23-26 states: “In doing the things hereinafter alleged,
Defendants and each of them, and TORRES, were acting within the course and scope of said
alternative personality, capacity, identity, agency, representation, and/or employment and were
within the scope of their authority, whether actual or apparent.”
Request 5: At page 5-6 ¶ 20, lines 27-5 states: “Plaintiff is informed and believes, and on that
basis alleges, that at all times mentioned herein, Defendants and each of them, and TORRES,
were the trustees, partners, servants, joint venturers, shareholders, contractors, and/or
employees of each and every other Defendant, and the acts and omissions herein alleged were
done by them, acting individually, through such capacity and within the scope of their authority,
and with the permission and consent of each and every other Defendant and that said conduct
was thereafter ratified by each and every other Defendant, and that each of them is jointly and
severally liable to Plaintiff.”
Request 6: At page 6-7, ¶ 27, lines 26-1: “TORRES . . . retained the power and control entrusted
to him by BES and RUSD. In these roles, TORRES was under the direct supervision, employ,
agency, and control of the RUSD, BES, and DOES 1-100...”
Request 7: At page 9, ¶ 37, subpart (a) states: “TORRES engaged in such activities with
Plaintiff while acting in the course and scope of employment, agency, duties, and responsibilities
with Defendants. . . TORRES engaged with Plaintiff in the course and scope of his duties as an
(sic) teacher, advisor, and mentor.”
The main argument is the decision of John R. v. Oakland Unified School Dist. (1989) 48 Cal.3d
438, 450-452 which states:
But although the facts of this case can be made to fit a version of the respondeat superior
doctrine, we are unpersuaded that they should be or that the doctrine is appropriately invoked
here. We draw our decision not from the various factual scenarios in which vicarious liability has
or has not been imposed on employers for the torts of their employees, but instead from the
underlying rationale for the respondeat superior doctrine. 9
"The principal justification for the application of the doctrine of respondeat superior in any case is
the fact that the employer may spread the risk through insurance and carry the cost thereof as
part of his costs of doing business." (Johnston v. Long (1947) 30 Cal.2d 54, 64 [181 P.2d 645].)
"Although earlier authorities sought to justify the respondeat superior doctrine on such theories
as 'control' by the master of the servant, the master's 'privilege' in being permitted to employ
another, the third party's innocence in comparison to the master's selection of the servant, or the
master's 'deep pocket' to pay for the loss, 'the modern justification for vicarious liability is a rule
of policy, a deliberate allocation of a risk. The losses caused by the torts of employees, which as
a practical matter are sure to occur in the conduct of the employer's enterprise, are placed upon
that enterprise itself, as a required cost of doing business.'" (Hinman v. Westinghouse Elec. Co.
(1970) 2 Cal.3d 956, 959-960 [88 Cal.Rptr. 188, 471 P.2d 988], quoting Prosser, Law of Torts
(3d ed. 1964) p. 471.) "Three reasons have been suggested for imposing liability on an
enterprise for the risks incident to the enterprise: '(1) [It] tends to provide a spur toward accident
prevention; (2) it tends to provide greater assurance of compensation for accident victims[;] and
(3) at the same time it tends to provide reasonable assurance that, like other costs, accident
losses will be broadly and equitably distributed among the beneficiaries of the enterprises that
entail them.'" (Perez, supra, 41 Cal.3d at p. 967, quoting 5 Harper et al., The Law of Torts (2d
ed. 1986) § 26.5, p. 21, fns. omitted.)
The first of these three considerations just noted plays little role in the allocation of responsibility
for the sexual misconduct of employees generally, and with respect to the unique situation of
teachers, indicates that untoward consequences could flow from imposing vicarious liability on
school districts. Although it is unquestionably important to encourage both the careful selection
of these employees and the close monitoring of their conduct, such concerns are, we think,
better addressed by holding school districts to the exercise of due care in such matters and
subjecting them to liability only for their own direct negligence in that regard. Applying the
doctrine of respondeat superior to impose, in effect, strict liability in this context would be far too
likely to deter districts from encouraging, or even authorizing, extracurricular and/or one-on-one
contacts between teachers and students or to induce districts to impose such rigorous controls
on activities of this nature that the educational process would be negatively affected. 10
Nor is the second consideration -- the assurance of compensation for accident victims --
appropriately invoked here. The acts here differ from the normal range of risks for which costs
can be spread and insurance sought. (See Alma W., supra, 123 Cal.App.3d at p. 144.) The
imposition of vicarious liability on school districts for the sexual torts of their employees would
tend to make insurance, already a scarce resource, even harder to obtain, and could lead to the
diversion of needed funds from the classroom to cover claims.
The only element of the analysis that might point in favor of vicarious liability here is the propriety
of spreading the risk of loss among the beneficiaries of the enterprise. School districts and the
community at large benefit from the authority placed in teachers to carry out the educational
mission, and it can be argued that the consequences of an abuse of that authority should be
shared on an equally broad basis. But the connection between the authority conferred on
teachers to carry out their instructional duties and the abuse of that authority to indulge in
personal, sexual misconduct is simply too attenuated to deem a sexual assault as falling within
the range of risks allocable to a teacher's employer. It is not a cost this particular enterprise
should bear, and the consequences of imposing liability are unacceptable.
In sum, we believe the Court of Appeal erred in looking mainly to the factual similarities between
this case and White, supra, 166 Cal.App.3d 566, and in failing to consider whether the
underlying justifications for the respondeat superior doctrine would be served by imposing
vicarious liability here. We need not and do not decide whether White itself was properly decided
or whether the job-created authority theory has any validity in evaluating vicarious liability for the
torts of police officers. It suffices here to note that the authority of a police officer over a motorist
-- bolstered most immediately by his uniform, badge and firearm, and only slightly less so by the
prospect of criminal sanctions for disobedience -- plainly surpasses that of a teacher over a
student. The teacher's authority is different in both degree and kind, and it is simply not great
enough to persuade us that vicarious liability should attach here for the teacher's tort.
Furthermore, invoking respondeat superior here would raise an entirely different specter of
untoward consequences, or interference with the purposes for which the authority was conferred
in the first place, than might result from the imposition of vicarious liability in the limited context of
a police officer's abuse of authority. We doubt that police departments would deprive their
officers of weapons or preclude them from enforcing the laws, but we see a significant and
unacceptable risk that school districts would be dissuaded from permitting teachers to interact
with their students on any but the most formal and supervised basis.
The law seems clear. Thus, the Court GRANTS the motion to strike in part as to requests # 2, 4,
5, 6 and 7. RUSD cannot be liable for Torres’ alleged conduct, but for the “negligence of
administrators or supervisors in hiring, supervising and retaining a school employee who
sexually harasses and abuses a student.” (CA v. William S. Hart Union High School Dist. (2012)
53 Cal.4th 861, 879.) The other requests just show that Torres was an employee of the
elementary school and District. There can be no liability but for the negligence of administrators
or supervisors in hiring, supervising, and retaining Torres.
RULING
For all the reasons set forth above, the Court:
1. FINDS a proper meet and confer;
2. SUSTAINS the demurrer to the fourth and seventh causes of action with 20 days
leave to amend;
3. SUSTAINS the demurrer to the ninth and tenth causes of action without leave to
amend;
4. GRANTS the motion to strike in part as to Requests #2, 4, 5, 6 and 7.
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